Peter Rosenberg, Walk Me Through Them Numbers Expert
Emmis: Hebrew for “Truth”
Peter Pudge Nubby: A fictional gnome-like character from children’s bedtime stories. Famous for making assinine assumptions, stupid comments and ill timed opinions on Urban Radio based solely on arrogance, ignorance and a false sense of entitlement.
I blame Byron Crawford for not finishing this dude off when he had the chance to.
So yesterday I posted a piece here called “Liza Rios, Let Me Walk You Through Them Numbers Girlfriend”. In it I loosely crunched some numbers breaking down my understanding of why Liza Rios, Big Pun’s widow, might be wrong in blaming Fat Joe for all of her current financial woes. My post was based solely on the hundreds of deals I negotiated during my years as an entertainment attorney in the music industry. It was well received amongst the Internets. Imagine my shock when, upon waking up and logging onto Twitter earlier today, I was greeted with a public and blindsided vicious attack from famed Hot 97 radio hack Peter Rosenberg. In said heinous attack, Rosenberg made light of my numbers crunching by tweeting:
@Sindanu @combat_jack i read that yesterday..no offense…its crap..the numbers are all made up..truth is i bet liza never got dough
Now, I have no clue who this Sindanu fellow Rosenberg was maligning me to, seems like he’a a French chap but, as a tried and true veteran of several blog battles, I surely recognize unprovoked shots when I see them. Automatically jumping into beef mode, and loving the smell of combat in the morning, I went in on dude, calling him out for his reckless attack. His response was kinda slick, playing innocent like there was no ill will in his words. His tweet:
@Combat_Jack im not getting baited into arguing with you..who are you? im just saying i read your piece on pun and the numbers were fuzzy
Adding insult to injury, feigning that he had no clue as to who I was (even though he stated earlier that he had read my post), I responded by going in further, calling him all types of radio hack and what not. Now I was raised to fully appreciate the competitive and combative nature of this art and sport that is Hip Hop. I mean, we are Hip Hop, no? So in the spirit of doing what I do, I continued to taunt, jab and test the mettle of Mr. Rosenberg on Twitter. At some point, I gave him the opportunity to publicly refute the validity of my calculations. Then Twitter crashed and running off to attend several meetings, I left the ensuing beef alone for a few hours. Eager to jump back into the din of battle, I logged onto my Twitter account later on in the afternoon. Scurryin to and fro in an attempt to evade the point of his attack and the premise of my challenge, similar in nature to the fabled Pudge Nuddy who, when cornered by gnome hunters for their misdeeds, will do any and everything within their power to avoid capture, Rosenberg’s response read:
@Combat_Jack well first off when was pun signed to relativity? Joe was, but as far as I’ve ever heard Pun was signed to Loud first
Peter, touché, Big Pun was indeed signed initially to Loud/ RCA. In writing my post yesterday, I initially remembered that, but in researching for facts, all mention of Pun’s albums listed were of them being released on Relativity/Sony, in some sources, Relativity/Loud. I guess I can attribute that to the Sony/ BMG merger that took place back in 2004. You familiar with that? However, getting back to the prime point of your attack, I still offer you the opportunity to prove my numbers to be of that fuzzy crap nature you boldly proclaimed hours earlier.
Please understand, I mean you no harm, I’m just having fun. Isn’t this thing we have here exciting?
As I intensified my shock and awe twitter attack tactics, calling on you to respond, I got some calls and a couple of tweets, emails too, calling on me to fall back, stating that I was getting a bit too carried away. And they were right, I did get carried away. Maybe I’m just stupid like that, immature too, but please understand, I take my work very seriously, and when I see folk aiming to cast a shadow on my credibility, well, sometimes I don’t know how to act.
Still, getting back to the matter, I await your response. If you don’t feel my background as an entertainment attorney allows me the freedom to give informed analysis on deals like the one Pun signed to Terror Squad, lets get some other folk that you have faith in to chime in on this matter. Attorneys like Kenny Meiselas, Fred Davis, Tim Mandelbaum, Andy Tavel, or any other notable entertainment attorney you feel has a firm handle on the crunching of numbers. I hear your brother’s an attorney as well, does he practice entertainment law? We can call him, (though I believe he’d be more inclined to push the argument in your favor). Also, the attorney who represents you. Who represents you Peter? I’m open to discussing this matter with him/ her. I’d even like to suggest Wendy Day of The Rap Coalition, who has overseen and been involved in the structuring of many a legendary deal. Whomever you want B. Let’s have a beer summit even, moderated by the lovely Miss Info. I like Heineken. We could do it on air or we can keep the press at least 40 feet away as we break down whatever issues you have with me and my numbers in privacy. If there’s a consensus proving your point, that my numbers were “fuzzy” and “crap”, I can live with that. I’ll even retract my attacks on you and drop an extensive apology post here at the Daily Math. I’m able to openly admit my flaws.
However, if you’re wrong, and I do believe you are wrong, you know you’ll owe me an apology right? A big fat one. Your voice carries a lot of weight Pete. Over at Emmis, you speak the truth, right? So, once proven wrong, be a man about it and let’s have you deliver that apology on air, where you do your thing, on Hot 97. I need that. The Internets need to hear the truth too. Hot 97 needs to keep their listeners informed as to the truth too, don’t you agree?
Let’s go Pete. You started this. Don’t be acting all Pudge Nubby-ish, ducking me and avoiding this brouhaha you instigated. Plus, this is, as I said above, all in fun.
Blaow!
Image of the elusive Pudge Nubby provided by Theotis Jones
Well done. The pic is hilarious BTW.
Hmm..,seems like you may have an interesting battle on your hands with this one CJ. I mean most Jews could give an Ari Gold shit about Hip Hop as a culture but when it comes to numbers and that cash they’re masters at that shit.
Love to see how this one plays it self out.
In the mean time check out my cousin Stan Bravo’s new record Ft Price, Jay-z and The Notorious BIG only at http://www.myspace.com/stanbravo
Whoa!
Wow… this is exactly why I’m always sure to remember that I am a FAN and not an “inside guy”, haha. Wouldn’t wanna be caught out there speaking on something that I don’t know about, or negating something said by those who know more about it than I do.
No shade on Rosenberg, cause I respect the side of him that represents a huge hip-hop/wrestling fan (which I am as well)… but dude was out of his league on this one.
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Peter Rosenberg is a dick riding faggot, he loves the attention. Shouts to Combat Jack on this ultimate sonning.
BLAOW!!!
And goddamn, who the fuck is it stepping up to defend Rosenberg, somebody who feels they have to FAKE “respect” because douchebag has access to the airwaves? Don’t rock the boat, SINK the boat.
Danj, I grew up on Channel 9 Saturday morn, Superfly Snuka, Rowdy Roddy Piper, Chief Jay Strongbow, S.D. Special Delivery Jones and all that and I goddamn DESPISE wrestling– every single thing about it– today.
No shots at you digging what you dig but if Rosenberg is still a wrestling fan that to me says A LOT about what he “knows” and what he THINKS he really knows about the entertainment business and real life.
Bob Backlund says what?
CJ goes in again. I say nothing comes of this. CJ FTW!
You have not carried yourself with much dignity in regards to this argument with Rosenberg. I’m really disappointed in you because your posts generally allude to a specific world view I subscribe to: namely that there are appropriate times to get emotional, but you should never allow your emotions to govern your decisions. I think you’d agree your decision to compose and publish this post was an emotional one. Cooler heads haven’t been given an opportunity to prevail and that’s unfortunate because I support your blog for the same reasons I support Rosenberg. You both demand honesty. Ultimately, that’s what sparked this dispute in the first place.
You take great pride in your integrity. It’s certainly evident in your more personal posts. I have a sense, and I suspect you may as well, that you will soon regret this one because it doesn’t represent an accurate reflection of who you are or what the Daily Mathematics is about. This was childish, unnecessary.
The issue of the day should have been Pun’s kids.
^ “I have a sense, and I suspect you may as well, that you will soon regret this one because it doesn’t represent an accurate reflection of who you are or what the Daily Mathematics is about. This was childish, unnecessary.”
Thanks for your candor DV. Thanks also for supporting the Daily Math. No doubt my words directed toward Rosenberg were emotional in nature, but I was 100% true to myself in my actions. I had some things I needed to say and feel I was effective in getting them off my chest. Being that Peter currently sits in a position where his words are far more influential than mine, I deemed it necessary to remove restraint usually exercised against those with less reach. In fact, holding anything back would have felt dishonest to me. I learned a long time ago to never live with regrets and I truly doubt this post will cause me to live with any moving forward. I stand by my words and am prepared to be held accountable as should us all. In my honesty, I wish to bring you my very best, even when I bring my very worst. I’ve watched Peter throw some very damaging words to many unprepared to fight back and I was not going to allow him to cast his unwarranted opinion my way without any ramifications. Please understand that I do very well understand and enjoy the aggressive nature of Hip Hop and saw yesterday as an excellent opportunity to play fight with dude. Let’s see how this plays out in the long run, shall we? Today’s already a new day and I’m ready to embrace all challenges and opportunities it will bring.
Thanks again.
I cosign DV. I love this site, but it was painful reading this shit in it’s entirety and looking at your tweets.
I’d have thought that with 20 years in the industry, something like “your numbers are crap” wouldn’t even deserve a sideways glance let alone acknowledging this radio hack.
^ So let me get this straight. Dude with a reach 20x greater than mine, who sits on a platform far more powerful than the Daily-Math throws an unprovoked dis my way in connection with my professional analysis, a dis that’s potentially more damaging than anything I can say about him and it’s all good? I stand up to defend myself, call him out on his continuous shenanigans and I’m acting disgracefully? Like I said, I acted out knowingly, but it seems to me like ya’ll are feeling sorry for dude. He shouldn’t be called out? He shouldn’t be held accountable for his words? What am I missing here? Help me out Guy, DV, ’cause it’s not adding up from where I’m sitting. “Your blog is crap” is one thing, “your numbers based on your professional experience are crap” is something totally different.
Your right Jack. Peter is a god damn annoying, wobble – headed, no good simp…His partner ” Cipher Sounds ” ( worst name in the game ) is in the same boat ( a sinking one at that )…
Something about these dudes straight up stinks….Keep up the good work over here..We gotcha back BLACK…..
Sounds like you’re bigger than this, and got rubbed the wrong way when he didn’t even intend to challenge your professional credibility. If the numbers sound like fiction to a radio guy, so be it.
The only deals legally negotiated at Hot97 are contracts for their on-air talent, royalties, and maybe an appearance fee for special events. Otherwise, what would he know? You’ve structured deals for breaking artists, but if the numbers sound made up to him, based on the gossip, and talk he hears around the station, then that’s his opinion. We all know there’s a lot of BS talk in the Hip Hop game, and that 99.9% of the money spread around isn’t really what they say it is, because Jay Z aside, almost all the names in the game are buried under debt with few if any assets to their name.
Few people are going to care about any of this that he’s reaching out to though. It would look worse to mention it on the air at all.
That “Who are you?” is so disrespectful. He said the same thing to Byron Crawford and the same thing to The Rosenthals (all equals in my opinion). Like the gimmick appointment at a desperate radio station is somebody. He knows a few bum rappers and producers who only get work off his name. Oh shit he must be the king of hip-hop.
Rosenberg’s had a bad year. I feel sorry for Ciph.
One more thing. After rereading your last post…I’m confused.
The numbers *were* made up. Weren’t you giving a general case study, making educated guesses, rather than divulging exact numbers?
Love the blog though.
Attention naysayers, Rosenberg did say “truth is i bet liza never got dough” . . . why is he trying to associate his opinion with the truth?
2nd, for a guy that’s not trying to battle, he quickly attempted to discredit Combat Jack’s words by saying “who are you?”
Anybody who read the piece should clearly understand that the numbers were an approximation. So to reply and say that the numbers sounds fishy reveal some reading comprehension issues. Truth be told, if any one wants to get into exact numbers only Fat Joe and Liza Rios knows the exact numbers.
CJ, do you, defend your position.
CJ nigga your name is Combat Jack! Not fall back jack or be the bigger man jack. Fuck them pussy niggas talking bout some bigger man shit. That type of shit only works for Hippies not negros like you an me that love some confrontation. Shit why you think they call me The Black George Bush?? Case I live to bomb on any motherfucka not giving a fuck. My typical day starts with me getting up at around 10, burning some kush around 12, blowing up a country around about 1 or 1:30 depending how I feel, getting some head from the first lady, Then I repeats the whole process again the next day. Not givin a fuck. If You won’t say it than I will Mother Fuck a Rozenberg. Only thing any Jew is good for is investing in my business ventures an holding my weed incase the cops try to run up on a nigga. Fuck all you Hippie niggas too! What I said it! Don’t let me get my daddy involved neither, you know how gangster the Bush Family gets!!
I cosigned yesterday as I do today……..I grew up in the culture directly……When HipHop was on streets and alleyways where people like Rosenberg never ventured because of the whole “danger” factor. I’m an outcast in my views most times because other folks cow tow to these Rosenbergs because they wield some sort of political influence. I could give a fuck less, they can’t tell me shit about this culture….no matter how many times they watched Breakin or Beat Street from the comfort of their homes.
“Now, I have no clue who this Sindanu fellow Rosenberg was maligning me to, seems like he’a a French chap”
First, let me say that I love ur blog. (Check ur old post I always left some comments!) That’s why I “twittered” Rosenberg about ur post when I heard trough (hot97.com) that he was about to speak with Liza Rios.
Second, he didn’t dissed u on the air. It was on twitter!
I agree that his first answer (“Who are you?”) was a bit disrespectful, but come on…
I’ve met Rosenberg for an intw (yeah I’m a french writer) and he’s a cool dude. I’ve been reading ur blog for a while and you seems like a smart man…So can’t we all get along ?
Peace,
S.
CJ after your thorough decimation of VV’s Tom Breihan…. as a white boy from Oz, despite my minimal aboriginal ancestry, u think it’s outta line for me to utilise ‘ninja’ on the internets? I generally only us it as a substitute when quoting someone (insert:any just about any rapper), but have always wondered whether it’s considered a loaded word by black folk, how fine a line it really is considering the liberal/flagrant use of it in general conversation/greetings by any and anybody on the internets. (check the nahRight boards for instance)
The only people who even saw those original messages were people who follow both you and Rosenberg on Twitter. I’m one of your readers and even I didn’t follow both of you so how many people is that really?
I can assure you the thing that was most surprising was neither of you was particularly aware of the other. That’s disheartening. You live in Brooklyn. He lives in Manhattan. Unacceptable. These iPhones cost too much money and these subways are too cheap to not use.
Also, notice how no one who knows both of you has taken the time to say, “You know what? I’m surprised these guys don’t know each other like that. Nothing positive is coming out of this. They ought to meet.” Why not? Maybe because they’re bored? Twitter shut down for a few hours and people bugged out? Maybe because no one really gives enough of a fuck about the thing they invest their time in to make sure it’s on point?
Fuck that. I give a fuck. You guys play for the same team. Don’t let these motherfuckers see fractures in our ranks while we’re trying to make real moves that benefit everyone.
The math has to add up to become science.
The sad thing is that a lot of yall that’s saying that CJ should fall back are on some hoe shit. These are 2 respectable grown ass men who are doing their thing by contributing to the culture. If you have an issue with someone you should be able to address it in person, on the ‘nets, phone etc. Yall acting like PR is immortal, GTFOH! It’s quite simple PR challenged authenticity of CJ’s claims and CJ simply defended himself. What’s wrong with that?
@Sinadu….is being a ‘bit disrespected’…like being a ‘bit pregnant’???…. dude…BROOKLYN….. HIP HOP….DANGER …VIOLENCE…. like our neighborhoods that are seeing mass gentrification…HIP HOP has as well…on some real ish…I MISS THE DANGER AND VIOLENCE.. of 80’s and 90’s HIP HOP…and to some extent…80’s and 90’s BROOKLYN…hip hop in the beginning you had to go find it(wasn’t beamed into ya crib or PDA) and the places you had to go…wasn’t a f..in white party in the HAMPTONS…or a TRENDY CLUB in SOHO with a Transvestite at the DOOR WITH THE GUEST LIST…the first time I ever layed eyes on Kool G Rap in person was at the WORLD…Proffessor X was the promoter…that night hip hop was in (LIVE ON STAGE) EFFECT…. at some point shots rang out..screaming panic stampede…after the crowd dispersed 3 writhing bodies lay on the dance floor…HAD A GREAT TIME THAT NIGHT>>>morbid as that sounds….I MISS that…I yearn for that “it could go down at any moment feeling”…NY hip hop and NY in general has lost alot of that ..to some its for the better …me I ain’t so sure……where I came from(E.N.Y.) we called it “the bleed”…I heard one of my boys say, “I smell bleed” automatically we all on alert…cause at any moment IT COULD GO DOWN and SOMEBODY WOULD BE LEAKING……what could go down you ask……lol…..you probably wouldn’t understand….yet you may…them 90’s french b-boys was something else they damn selves…(hail up Lucien)….and in a blog comment I couldn’t begin to educate you or anyone else on this..you had to LIVE IT… with that said…asking that question to me is asinine…but thats me…
@HEX you some sort of Aussy comedian???…ask ya man to liberaly apply powder to his hand …. and have him ask you “what did the five fingers say to the face”…..
Because this wasn’t a personal dispute. It was a professional one. Rosenberg didn’t insult CJs kids, he expressed skepticism. You handle it like professionals and you don’t take it personally.
Perhaps CJ has more responsibility than he realizes. His experience and reputation provide him with an enviable credibility, however, the information and numbers cited in his post were by his own admission purely speculative. But it’s very easy in this particular blogosphere, which sorely lacks people with CJ’s knowledge base, for that information to be perceived as fact once it makes its way through secondary and tertiary channels.
Now, is that CJ’s fault? Surely not. Should he at least be aware of it? Certainly. And especially in this situation because there are young children involved. Maybe Mrs. Rios did blow all that money away irresponsibly. That isn’t the issue anymore. Pun’s kids deserve better and we owe it to them.
One of my clients is the Puerto Rican Family Institute. (http://www.prfi.org) I see no reason why CJ, Rosenberg, Cipha Sounds and NORE can’t collaborate with them to put together a show to benefit Pun’s kids and raise awareness for innocent Puerto Rican children living in poverty through no fault of their own.
@Blowfish…. you think I was tryin to be funny? Fuckin Blow dick you silly cunt.
@Mr Blofish : I feel u (pause) plus don’t get it twisted in Paris we are still on some shit…(Ask Dame Dash lol)
But again : what’s the point ? I don’t want to play the devil’s advoctate but I really don’t think that Rosenberg is a bad person. His “tweet” was a mistake. Ok.
Now all I’m asking is for CJ and homeboy to talk like grown men. Something good could come out of this (pause) : a blog, a podcast, an intw of CJ on Hot 97…Plus it could benefit, the public or aspiring artists about the business.
Because let’s not forget the starting point of this “beef” : Liza Rios live in fuckin shelter with her kids !!!!
I’m pretty sure that CJ and Rosenberg can agree that this is more important that their difference of opinions.
Peace,
i blame byron too
i co-sign A-King. If there is an issue, handle it. These guys seem to be two reasonable people. I think it’s unreasonable for someone to be against them not settling this dispute. Everyone has a right to defend themselves under legit circumstances. No ifs ands or buts. This is what makes us human. Wanting to shy away from something like this is what makes you a pussy.
^
I cosign to an extent the theory that danger and violence has a way of filtering some of the bullshit.
But were not even talking about CJ taking the preverbial trashcan to my man on the ave. There shouldn’t be anything wrong with taking a media figure to task for what they (recklessly?) say. You said it, back that up.
(requesting a late pass re: the nets)
Are the rules different for Twitter?
And my insticts tell me there will be major backpeddling to come.
Yo CJ, I ove the blog and u inspired me to get mine’s poppin but I think you kinda going overboard. You got the name calling and lil funny pics going at Peter but you’d think he said something crazy to you. I don’t think he knows how official you are in the industry so therefore he needs to be schooled but dude said ur #’s were fuzzy. Not ur blog sucks or slandering ur name.
I do think ur guesstimates were realistic but since he dont know who you are, like Hov said, reintroduce urself and let him know who you are instead of bs shots and challenges.
http://justintime410.blogspot.com
The benefit for the kids is an excellent idea. I however, have zero confidence that the proceeds would be wisely spent. The parties involved would ultimately have to defend themselves for spending too much on overhead…and there would have to be another benefit in a few months.
Co-Sign BlackGeorgeBush, A-King and Blofish.
I’m highly amused anytime people associate “maturity” with falling back and basically taking the p*ssy way out.
CJ do your thing. I stopped listening to sHot 97 years ago. Recently, through the internets of course, I heard Fat Joe shut down one of their talking heads. The talking head tried to say we’re the perfect trio “a Jew, a Puerto Rican and a black.” Joe was like I don’t know nothing about that. (Score)
sHot 97 is bullsh*t. And it is very important for someone to confront them on their bullsh*t. The impressionable young people listening to that rot must know they are hearing any and everything but the truth.
Cipha is a clown, Rosenberg is a clown, Flex is the biggest clown of them all and Angie? She’s a grinning, gushing, clown. Fuck the circus that is sHot 97.
“Dude with a reach 20x greater than mine”
He never mentioned you on the radio. And I’m sure this site gets more views than Peter Rosenberg’s Twitter account.
“Throws an unprovoked dis my way in connection with my professional analysis”
It was an off-hand, snide little comment. It weren’t no “body that latte” that’s for sure. He never called you out by name, he said “it’s crap, the numbers are made up”. Unprovoked? Yes. Dis? No.
And no shots, but your professional analysis could have been off. Granted, you would know more about the specifics than PR, but you did a lot of approximation and estimates.
“a dis that’s potentially more damaging than anything I can say about him and it’s all good”
Peter Rosenberg has never talked negatively about any bloggers on the radio. He reluctantly talked to Robbie about the Bol situation. So how is that potentially more damaging than anything you can say about him? Your site is a far greater avenue than some lowly radio personality’s twitter account.
“but it seems to me like ya’ll are feeling sorry for dude”
Fuck him, I feel sorry for you CJ. Like I said before, reading this was hard knowing the outstanding quality of writing you usually produce.
“He shouldn’t be held accountable for his words? What am I missing here?”
When you’re a 40 year old gimmick who works for Hot 97, your words don’t mean much, at least not to people like me. And just like anyone else, Pete Rosenberg is entitled to his own opinion. If a random commenter wrote “your numbers are crap”, I’m sure you wouldn’t have gone apeshit and started blasting them all over Twitter.
BlackGeorgeBush for President!! Co-sign the cosigns and…
It’s long past time to tear shit down– fuck building more false bridges and a witless ass turd like Rosenberg is a fine place to start.
I could understand being cool if there were still questions as to Combat Jack’s identity but it says it right there. It is not very difficult to find out roughly who the man is and that he might be someone with knowledge.
BROOKLYN STAND UP!!
WHY DO THE TI’S FEEL SO FUCKIN ENTITLED. I always confused Peter Rosenberg as Paul Rosenberg (Em’s attorney), at least than i would understand why people listen to this idiot. But when i found out he’s just another TI trying to be down by dickriding your favorite rappers, i was shocked. Bottom line, this kid admitted to dickriding in his intereview where he says he can’t talk shit about people because he has to see them in functions, parties or in the streets. HA! So basically translated, PETER ROSENBERG DICKRIDES RAPPERS SO HE DOESN’T GET HIS WHITE ASS FUCKED UP. Every interview i see him do he’s dickriding some rapper and the only beef he starts is with bloggers.
Call me crazy but i love this part (Please understand, I mean you no harm, I’m just having fun. Isn’t this thing we have here exciting?)
Peter Rosenberg is hella wack. end of story dont speak on it no explanations necessary
Ciph should have done a show with any other bamma
*dead*
the dude won’t reply, you know this mayn.
I JUST WANT TO START OUT BYE SAYING CJ AND HIS DAILY MATH IS JUST WHAT WE NEED HE SPILL THE BEANS WHEN IT REALLY MATTERS AND FOR A MAN TO STAND UP TO HIS WRITTEN WORD IS TO BE HUMAN IF NOT THAN WHY WOULD HE BE THE HOST OF ONE OF THE BEST WRITTEN WORD BLOGS ON HIP HOP AND ALL THAT THIS WORLD PUT IN TO THE TRUE MEANING OF HIP HOP YOU SPEAK YOUR MIND AND THEN STAND UP AND BACK YOUR SHIT UP AND THAT IS WHAT THIS SOLDIER DID HE WENT TO WAR WITH HIS STRAP AND XTRA AMMO BAM,BAM,BAM…..
I’m all about a good beef. But is this one you can win, big homey? You might air that fool the fuck out in front of the internet, but you’re right: He’s got airplay on Hot97. I don’t know–are dudes that fuck with Hot97 even on the internet blogs? And speaking for my Atlanta Hip Hop heads: if you’re true to your Hip Hop, then you don’t fuck with the radio.
Let’s keep it classy…
CJ seems to be falling into the same narcissistic pit that Kanye been swimming in lately (you come into the game humble as fuck, start making major moves, rub shoulders with the movers and shakers, start feeling yourself something serious…. all of a sudden NOBODY can utter “Who are you” without you going apeshit about that persons inability to recognize greatness). I don’t think anybody would deny your impact as an attorney in the pivotal age of hip hop. This post sounds like Rick Ross complaining about 50 cent not acknowledging him… very highschoolish… These are my opinions and not at all factual… no shots
^ “(you come into the game humble as fuck, start making major moves, rub shoulders with the movers and shakers, start feeling yourself something serious…. all of a sudden NOBODY can utter “Who are you” without you going apeshit about that persons inability to recognize greatness)”
I thought I was spazzing out on cats, going apeshit years ago.
Yo Check this out, This is CJ’s house here. How the fuck are ya’ll negros gonna come one here trying to talk down on a nigga in his own house..smh. CJ is right fuck Rozenberg. I can’t stand white folks who put up money in hiphop and now all of a sudden there “HipHop” experts news flash Color does matter and I don’t give a fuck if your a white boy from the “hood”, the black person standing next to that white dude will still get it worse when the cops roll up. So that means None of you crackers can claim shit and act like ya’ll been through enough shit to relate to HipHop Music. Fuck Rozenberg if you ball lickers don’t like what I’m saying that you can suck on Rozenberg’s man boobs.
Bush Family
There is a disturbing trend going on the last few weeks. First Em vs Nick/MC and now this.
BlackGeorgeBush
August 7th, 2009 at 6:36 pm · Reply
Yo Check this out, This is CJ’s house here. How the fuck are ya’ll negros gonna come one here trying to talk down on a nigga in his own house..smh. CJ is right fuck Rozenberg. I can’t stand white folks who put up money in hiphop and now all of a sudden there “HipHop” experts news flash Color does matter and I don’t give a fuck if your a white boy from the “hood”, the black person standing next to that white dude will still get it worse when the cops roll up. So that means None of you crackers can claim shit and act like ya’ll been through enough shit to relate to HipHop Music. Fuck Rozenberg if you ball lickers don’t like what I’m saying that you can suck on Rozenberg’s man boobs.
Bush Family
^^
lol
I can’t believe this shit is still goin on. hahaha. the reality is homie CJ overreacted considering there were numerous erroneous facts with his post. If it were a hypothetical post as apposed to one passed off by CJ as being based on fact then it would be a different story. Your “research” aka google search woulda brought you right to whiteypeedia and even they have Pun listed as a Loud/RCA artist. another fact is Pun also sold his publishing rights to Jellybean Benitez hence fat joe not seeing any of those residuals. That lady put the gods ts chain on ebay for christs sake. FOH with that entitlement bullshit. she shoulda got a damn job, sold that house and got a small apartment and resumed the life she had before rap and gunbutts and titjobs. all in all, a silly post and even sillier argument. everyone lost.
I don’t get it. I saw one video post yesterday where Liza Rios admits she got $160K for Big Puns Publishing. Later I hear her say in that Hot 97 interview that she recieved $125k for Pun’s last album plus another $75k for Remy Ma. By my count that’s 360K all within a relatively short time frame. That’s more than enought to start a new comfortable life. AND That doesn’t include any money Joe might of hit her off with strictly because of the love of Pun.
She just gives off a “blameeveryoneexceptmyselfbumbitch” vibe.
Look bro fact of the matter is, This is CJ’s house and he can say whatever the fuck he wants to right or wrong. If you don’t like that, than you can finger fuck lady gaga and suck her weiner at the same time.
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I see prejudicial thoughts are alive and well with some of your commentators here CJ.